Comments on: Dissent While You Drink

By: Chunters

Chunters — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:44:49 +0000

Chris Paul said “PS does Chunters have a sense of humour?”

No I don’t.

By: Chris Paul

Chris Paul — Wed, 21 May 2008 13:52:17 +0000

If the mayor wants to ban excessive drinking, disorder, drunkeness, threatening behaviour etc he can ban that. But the place where the drink was consumed to create this problem is hardly relevant. The laws already exist to stop any of this that is problematic. In canada it is illegal to have alcoholic beverage containers – including unopened – in vehicles. This does not stop drunk driving. It does stop passengers enjoying lunch in transit having a root beer.

PS does Chunters have a sense of humour?

By: Chas

Chas — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:45:08 +0000

“That would show that people can drink responsibly on public transport, undermining the whole premise of the ban…”

The point is that people don’t drink responsibly on public transport, do they? It’s an inherently uncivilised thing to do. Those who do it are invariably already drunk and have lost the self control to behave reasonably. Go home, or go to the pub, like the rest of us.

Unlike our illiberal and authoritarian government, which wants to ban all sorts of reasonable behaviour (remember the smoking ban?) I am not generally in favour of banning more things. But Boris Johnson took a lot of soundings during his campaign and found that a lot of people are distressed by threatening, drunken behaviour on the tube.

He therefore pledged to ban drinking on public transport in his manifesto. As a result of his manifesto pledges, he was duly and democratically elected mayor of London, and is obliged to honour those pledges. If you don’t like the ban, complain to the million plus people who voted for Boris.

By: BenSix

BenSix — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:03:29 +0000

Tell you what Chunters, if Chris smashes 1000 (hell, I’ll lower that to ten) windows then I’ll propose to Boris Johnson.

By: Chunters

Chunters — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:02:46 +0000

It would back fire as I have stated before and you will be arrested.

Still it would take off the streets another load of left wing tossers.

By: Chunters

Chunters — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:00:06 +0000

Chris Paul said “I’ll do a Bullingdon cossie and hardcore excessive drinking as long as Sunny or Boris provides live fox cubs, empty Bollie bottles to sling at them, hotty crack whores from Soho, and an attempt is made to smash a minimum of 1,000 carriage windows.”

I knew and I told ya so…

By: BenSix

BenSix — Sun, 18 May 2008 18:43:50 +0000

A fair point, Doug. I think that the original comment was purely ironic, but there is – especially among the libertarians – annoyance that an ex-Bullingdon Club member could be passing legislation against alchohol.

By: Doug

Doug — Sun, 18 May 2008 18:20:21 +0000

Wouldn’t Bullingdon Club outfits be as counter-productive as getting out-of-the-skull drunk? The latter would be spun to show that the opponents of the ban are irresponsible. The former risks us looking bitter, as if we opposed the measure for the sake of opposing Boris, rather the ban itself. It might all be a joke – but that’s not the way it would look the next day in the press.

By: BenSix

BenSix — Sun, 18 May 2008 12:23:56 +0000

Goodness, you are used to interesting parties.
I can’t remember seeing live fox cubs at the cash and carry, but maybe they were keeping them under the counter.

By: Chris Paul

Chris Paul — Sun, 18 May 2008 12:16:38 +0000

I’ll do a Bullingdon cossie and hardcore excessive drinking as long as Sunny or Boris provides live fox cubs, empty Bollie bottles to sling at them, hotty crack whores from Soho, and an attempt is made to smash a minimum of 1,000 carriage windows.