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		<title>By: The Void Deck &#187; Man the Walls! The Sock Puppets are Here!</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>The Void Deck &#187; Man the Walls! The Sock Puppets are Here!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is trolling, and there is sock puppeting, which is really what Wayang Party is bitching about. Sock puppeting is more sophisticated and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2607</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should clarify a coupole of points:

I produced the blog at boris-johnson.com and - as with Tom Watson&#039;s blog - moved to a hands-off position once a working machine and admin team had been established. These days, I only ever turn up in that part of the world if there&#039;s a crisis. That endorsement, though approved for publication by Boris, was drafted by the lovely Melissa. Saying that I know Boris &#039;well&#039; is a stretch.

Now that&#039;s out of the way; if Andrew Gilligan has been taking lessons in online etiquette from the wonks at Policy Exchange, he is taking advice from the wrong people (I&#039;ve traced at least one sock-puppet back to that organisation). But, now we&#039;ve enjoyed the input of David Boothroyd , this appears to be a bad habit going back decades for A.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify a coupole of points:</p>
<p>I produced the blog at boris-johnson.com and &#8211; as with Tom Watson&#8217;s blog &#8211; moved to a hands-off position once a working machine and admin team had been established. These days, I only ever turn up in that part of the world if there&#8217;s a crisis. That endorsement, though approved for publication by Boris, was drafted by the lovely Melissa. Saying that I know Boris &#8216;well&#8217; is a stretch.</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s out of the way; if Andrew Gilligan has been taking lessons in online etiquette from the wonks at Policy Exchange, he is taking advice from the wrong people (I&#8217;ve traced at least one sock-puppet back to that organisation). But, now we&#8217;ve enjoyed the input of David Boothroyd , this appears to be a bad habit going back decades for A.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Birdie</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2603</link>
		<dc:creator>Birdie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sort of stumbled on to this site and felt i had to say that i hate bendy buses (everyone but Ken Livingstone and his out of work cronies seems to).  Come on just admit that they suck. You lot seem to be looking for conspiracies when the truth is Londoners hate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of stumbled on to this site and felt i had to say that i hate bendy buses (everyone but Ken Livingstone and his out of work cronies seems to).  Come on just admit that they suck. You lot seem to be looking for conspiracies when the truth is Londoners hate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From The Guardian 21/10 &quot;There are two more big-name entries for the competition that have not so far been leaked to the press....and at least one is far better looking than all seen so far.&quot; - Is this not the Capoco one Newsed1.
Is a Hydrogen power plant the way forward in the near future. No infrastructure to produce and distribute large quantities of Hydrogen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From The Guardian 21/10 &#8220;There are two more big-name entries for the competition that have not so far been leaked to the press&#8230;.and at least one is far better looking than all seen so far.&#8221; &#8211; Is this not the Capoco one Newsed1.<br />
Is a Hydrogen power plant the way forward in the near future. No infrastructure to produce and distribute large quantities of Hydrogen?</p>
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		<title>By: Newsed1</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2531</link>
		<dc:creator>Newsed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.

The Autocar/Capoco design - despite the suggest given by the Evening Standard - has not been entered for the competition.

Capoco boss Alan Ponsford has entered what he told me was a &#039;very detailed proposal&#039; but I haven&#039;t seen it.

Nor have I seen Boris. Or even talked to him. Or anybody who knows him. Met him once, last November to show him the Autocar Routemaster. Shorter than I expected (Boris, not the bus) and very cautious.

&#039;I&#039;m not committing myself to anything, here, I am,&#039; he said. &#039;I don&#039;t want to see heads about billions being spent.&#039;

I&#039;m delighted that the old warriors like David Brown (with whom I sparred on the letters pages of The Times last Christmas) and Hendy on the competition committee.

&#039;Cos if these old Leninites give it the thumbs up, you lot will have to fall into line.

Won&#039;t you?

PS - I&#039;ve given my considered reasons for the pushing the Autocar design on Dave Hill&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.</p>
<p>The Autocar/Capoco design &#8211; despite the suggest given by the Evening Standard &#8211; has not been entered for the competition.</p>
<p>Capoco boss Alan Ponsford has entered what he told me was a &#8216;very detailed proposal&#8217; but I haven&#8217;t seen it.</p>
<p>Nor have I seen Boris. Or even talked to him. Or anybody who knows him. Met him once, last November to show him the Autocar Routemaster. Shorter than I expected (Boris, not the bus) and very cautious.</p>
<p>&#8216;I&#8217;m not committing myself to anything, here, I am,&#8217; he said. &#8216;I don&#8217;t want to see heads about billions being spent.&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m delighted that the old warriors like David Brown (with whom I sparred on the letters pages of The Times last Christmas) and Hendy on the competition committee.</p>
<p>&#8216;Cos if these old Leninites give it the thumbs up, you lot will have to fall into line.</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I&#8217;ve given my considered reasons for the pushing the Autocar design on Dave Hill&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Is this the most ridiculous Boris quote of all time? &#171; Confessions of a Political Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2530</link>
		<dc:creator>Is this the most ridiculous Boris quote of all time? &#171; Confessions of a Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if you haven&#8217;t yet seen the heartwarming tale of Andrew Gilligan and the sockpuppets, do read these. Enjoy. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Boris: Racism ends in 13 days, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if you haven&#8217;t yet seen the heartwarming tale of Andrew Gilligan and the sockpuppets, do read these. Enjoy. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Boris: Racism ends in 13 days, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guano</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>Guano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting how Gilligan (and others) start with the assumption that bendy buses are obviously bad and that everybody hates them, and then go on to suggest that people who ask questions about this issue are defending the indefensible. There was, for example, someone posting on Liberal Conspiracy accusing Val Shawcross of being an idiot for asking questions about the accident rate and for then saying that Boris had prejudged the issue (which clearly he had). He then seemed to be suggesting that people like Shawcross were getting obsessive about the shape of buses. 

I think that it is absolutely right for Shawcross to ask questions about this issue: that is the job of an Assembly Member. And we need to defend the principle of taking decisions on the basis of the best available data and not a priori assumptions. I&#039;m fairly certain that there will be more attacks from various people (real or imaginary) accusing questioners of being obsessed or defending the indefensible, but my experience of other issues (such as Weapons of Masss Destruction) leads me to think that it is because they don&#039;t particularly want to look at the facts or even take decisions based on hard data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting how Gilligan (and others) start with the assumption that bendy buses are obviously bad and that everybody hates them, and then go on to suggest that people who ask questions about this issue are defending the indefensible. There was, for example, someone posting on Liberal Conspiracy accusing Val Shawcross of being an idiot for asking questions about the accident rate and for then saying that Boris had prejudged the issue (which clearly he had). He then seemed to be suggesting that people like Shawcross were getting obsessive about the shape of buses. </p>
<p>I think that it is absolutely right for Shawcross to ask questions about this issue: that is the job of an Assembly Member. And we need to defend the principle of taking decisions on the basis of the best available data and not a priori assumptions. I&#8217;m fairly certain that there will be more attacks from various people (real or imaginary) accusing questioners of being obsessed or defending the indefensible, but my experience of other issues (such as Weapons of Masss Destruction) leads me to think that it is because they don&#8217;t particularly want to look at the facts or even take decisions based on hard data.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2008/10/30/sockpuppet-spectacular-undercover-gilligoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2526</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent link to the Transport Committee transcript - David Brown is absolutely the right person to judge whether bus designs are suitable for London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent link to the Transport Committee transcript &#8211; David Brown is absolutely the right person to judge whether bus designs are suitable for London.</p>
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