I’ve been a bit remiss in posting various researches that have appeared on other forums, so I’m going to put them here in a big lump.  First off, Red Arrow bus types and capacities over time:

Bus    Seats    Stands    Total    %sts    %stnds    stnds/sts ratio
MBS    25    48    73    34%    66%    1.92
N/nal2    28    46    74    38%    62%    1.64
CitaroG    49    100    149    33%    67%    2.04
MEC    21    76    97    22%    78%    3.62

[MEC is Boris's Cattle Truck as used now on the 507 and 521, of which a fairly balanced, informed discussion can be read here at londonbusroutes]

Bus passenger numbers over time, taken from the most recent TfL Annual Report :
Passenger numbers on buses per annum:

  • 2002/3 – 1.534bn
  • 2003/4 – 1.702bn
  • 2004/5 – 1.793bn
  • 2005/6 – 1.816bn
  • 2006/7 – 1.880bn
  • 2007/8 – 2.176bn
  • 2008/9 – 2.247bn

Seats per hour calculations for the new and old 507 timetable:

  • Old – 12 buses per hour, 49 seats per bus, 588 seats/hour
  • New – 18 buses per hour, 21 seats per bus, 378 seats/hour

So the result is 64% of the previous seating capacity.

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4 Responses to Boring Bus Stat Storage Post

  1. Mark Lee says:

    Erm. Isn’t the linked article slightly wrong as it says that the non-artic version of the 507 is cheaper than the artic version? I thought that the reality was the other way around and the bids were more expensive for the non-artic option?

  2. Tom says:

    They’re referring to the new bendies option, which came in a few tens of thousands above the rigid option for some reason. Retaining the existing bendies came in a good deal cheaper, but of course they’re the oldest in the fleet, dating from 2002.

    For the extra tens of thousands a year you would of course have got a lot more seats while having cleaner buses (EEV or Euro V instead of Euro III).

    On the 38, the option chosen was the most expensive of the three, with a new fleet of bendies in the middle.

  3. Mark Lee says:

    Ah. Now I understand. What’s the average lifespan of a London bus? 7 years seems quite short, but I guess keeping them for the lifespan of two contracts would mean they’d end up pretty decrepit by year 13/14.

    Also. The capacity on the rigid Citaros at Heathrow to take people to the plane is 18 seated. Worryingly close to the 21 on the 507/521.

  4. Neil says:

    Does anybody know if a manufacturers’ been appointed/interested to build the lean green New Routemater machine?

    I know TFL postedin the Official Journal of the European Union (OJEU) inviting bus manufacturers to express an interest but has anyone responded ?

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